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Sophus Update Post - Voting Crate, Claim Limit increase

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by ergology, Dec 27, 2017.

How do you feel about a PVP survival server?

  1. Yay!

    9 vote(s)
    31.0%
  2. Nah!

    20 vote(s)
    69.0%
  1. ergology

    ergology Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Registered

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    Hey Corbacrafters! I hope you all had a very merry Christmas!
    This weeks update post for Sophus is pretty straight forward and you can view them below. :D

    We focused primarily on the crates this update and making sure they are balanced and add some variation into the game. Hope you like what we did with them and as always suggestions are appreciated.​

    Voting Crate Upgrades:
    • All keys chance possibilities bumped from 3% to 5%
    • Claim blocks bumped from 5% to 8%
    • Replaced Iron boots with Diamond chestplate
    • Replaced Iron Leggings with Diamond Leggings
    • Replaced 1 Carrot with 4 Slimeballs
    • Added 200 CorbaCash
    • Added 400 CorbaCash
    • Changed 1 Beatroot to 12
    • Changed 1 Watermelon to 32
    Damon Crate Upgrades:
    • Miners Pic 2.0 replacing the original this one has eff 8
    • The Stick 2.0 replacing the original this one has sharpness 8
    • Excavator Shovel 2.0 replacing the original this one has eff 5
    Adonis Crate Upgrades
    • The mole shovel 2.0 replacing the original this one has eff 8
    • Combat boots 2.0 replacing original this one has protection 6
    Ajax Crate Upgrades
    • Death bow 2.0 replacing original now has power 8
    • Norse Sword 2.0 replacing original now has sharpness 6
    Other Changes:
    • The End world no longer has fly
    • The End is now PVP making it much more competitive for end items. (Sell high on the auction house)
    • Christmas crate removed on Dec 28th
    • Christmas spawn reverted back to original
    Bug Fixes:
    • Christmas crate bug where staff must hand key out.
    • Timed out bug fixed.
    Performance Upgrades
    • Render distance increased.
    • Item drop viewable distance increased.
    • View players from much further now
    • Mobs can be seen from further away friendly, and hostile.
     
  2. LordArbus

    LordArbus Well-Known Member Builder Events Registered

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    Woohoo, ergo!

    Players will be very happy about the render distance! Way to go!
     
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  3. elaineandsparky

    elaineandsparky Well-Known Member Builder Registered

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    Wow some great updates here :)

    Good work on ALL the upgrades to voting chest :)

    Not sure how I feel about the op tools, I liked that we could only have vanilla tools and the OP was kept on Lothar.

    I do not agree with the end being PVP. This server is advertised as "No PVP" if you decide to keep pvp on in the end then this needs to be changed. People like the fact that there is no pvp and I do not think adding it here and there is a good idea. Yes, keep the PVP arena for those who want to PVP but I don't see why it should be added elsewhere. You did also state that the community would be consulted before changes were made, did I miss this consultation?

    If you want to add PVP to CC then yes, a survival server with PVP everywhere is a great idea, would also make it a factions server and bring a whole new element to CC. Although this is a little confusing as I thought Philia and Aurelia were merged so there would only be 2 servers and not 3?

    And great news that the render distance has been increased :)
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2017
  4. celtic762

    celtic762 Administrator Staff Member Admin Server Admin Builder Events YouTube

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    Not voting because of diamond kit. Therest of changes are good. I personally think that diamond kit should not be in crates. Diamonds should be worked for, if not they lose value. Maybe sub in enchant books. Otherwise tools and weapons are good.

    Cheers.
     
  5. PreciousMe

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    I really like the crate changes but I have to agree with celtic. When you provide diamond items, it causes their value to depreciate in which will cause the cost of diamonds to forever stay at 100 (since the merge I've been able to sell them at around $400 per diamond!). I feel that the book enchants or XP bottles would be a lot better in exchange.

    EDIT: After using 64 voting keys, I am slightly disappointed with the outcome? Snatched $200 and 1k claim blocks but other than that I only got ONE key that allowed me to progress to the other crates (Damon key). That can be frustrating because that's 6 days worth of voting in which I got basic iron gear and other useless items such as the fishing rod and basic bow. I personally would remove the rod and bow as well as the iron gear and diamond gear. Replace them with iron ingots so you have more options such as 5 iron ingots, xp bottles, or enchanted books. Hopefully this experience can impact future crate changes. :)


    Furthermore, I feel that pvp in the end is unnecessary. In fact, it could possibly draw players away from the pvp arena who do not want to lose money. The no fly is ok but the pvp is doing nothing in my honest opinion. Because if you add it to the end then I'm sure soon enough the nether will become pvp with no fly and we will be back to what no one liked on Philia. Donors like being able to use what they paid for everywhere and slowly restricting it in specific areas can be very frustrating/upsetting. I understand that it's harder for players who don't donate to get end items BUT shulkers were being sold at $2-4k and elytras, around $5k, soon after the merge and they remained at those prices. Those prices made it very affordable for non-donors to still obtain end items hence turning off fly in the end a poor decision. But then again, this is just my reasoning and outlook. Hopefully this can shed a light on what some donors think.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this!
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2017
  6. Finn_The_Hobbit

    Finn_The_Hobbit Active Member Registered

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    Love the voting crate changes, but why is the End PvP??? CC is not a PvP server and if I want PvP Ican go to the arena! And why would you remove /fly in the End too? It won't change anything, other than making exploring and finding End Cities even more extremely difficult. The items already sell for high enough in the AH, theres no need to make them sell for higher, and really, whats the need for them to become more expensive? These items are really useful and I would hate to see them become too rare and fought over to stay readily available.
    EDIT: In repsonse to what Alice said, why have PvP enabled in the Nether, and would it be a system where both parties consent to PvP or where you can just start whacking at people? I also think that It isn't really hurting anyone to have fly in the Nether and see no reason to remove it, as it is not like the End where everything is incredibly rare and far between. Its probably will actually hurt the economy somewhat, and player deaths will most likely rise as well without Fly in the Nether.
     
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  7. Finn_The_Hobbit

    Finn_The_Hobbit Active Member Registered

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    Did item frame render distance get fixed?
     
  8. celtic762

    celtic762 Administrator Staff Member Admin Server Admin Builder Events YouTube

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    There was an arrangement on philia where a requirement was made for a PVP challenge was to be made first and accepted before engaging. That way people who were gathering resources would be left to alone to go about their business without fear. The challenge method also gave us a way of handling combat logging reviewing chat logs to establish the challenge was accepted.
     
  9. Finn_The_Hobbit

    Finn_The_Hobbit Active Member Registered

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    I used 34 voting keys and got 1.5k claim blocks, an Ajax and an Adonis key. From those crates I got regular diamond leggings and a CYA sword. For how rare other crate keys are to get, I really wish that they didn't have junk in them like regular diamond gear...
     
  10. Finn_The_Hobbit

    Finn_The_Hobbit Active Member Registered

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    So will that be how PVP is in the End? Because I don't want it to be that you can just go up to a person and start killing them.
     
  11. Finn_The_Hobbit

    Finn_The_Hobbit Active Member Registered

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    I think that /fly should be kept in the End because the main suppliers of End City loot are donators with /fly. Removing fly in the End will only increase the price of End loot, and therefore make it even more difficult for players without fly to buy anything from AH. (Shulker shells, boxes, etc that is) Another thing to note is that the inability to fly makes people want to buy donator ranks or work to get the in game rank with fly, so I think that removing fly from the End will make people less likely to purchase a donator rank.
     
  12. Finn_The_Hobbit

    Finn_The_Hobbit Active Member Registered

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    Concerning the voting crate changes, I gotta say they are awesome! A few suggestions though:
    1. Please get rid of all iron gear and replace them with iron ingots! You could have varying amounts of ingots, say 5 to replace the helmet with for example. This would make it so that end game players and players who are starting out still find them useful!

    2. Get rid of the Diamond gear and replace it with things like books, bottles o' enchanting, glowstone, coal, etc. Like Celtic said, diamonds should be worked for.

    3. Get rid of the Fishing Rod and Bow, or make them enchanted. Players will progress quickly through the tech tree, and so these items become obsolete very soon,

    4. Change the name of "Beatroot" to "BeetRoot"! Beetroot is the proper spelling! xD Also, the 400 Corba Cash is appearing as 4 Corba Cash.
    Thank you for changing the voting crate and listening to our pleas of sorrow, and I hope you'll take these suggestions into account!
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2017
  13. elaineandsparky

    elaineandsparky Well-Known Member Builder Registered

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    Celt, the whole agreeing to pvp thing in my opinion in the end is a little odd, is that not what the arena is for? If you are allowing people to still peacefully collect resources in the end by having players consent to pvp then why can't they just take it to the arena?
    The way I see it allowing pvp in the end but only with consent only creates more hassle for staff as players dispute whether they gave permission and players not asking for permission first. I only see this as one big headaches, again that no one liked about Philia save probably a few, but Philia didn't have the arena.

    Please keep PVP in the arena only and keep Sophus as the peaceful, helpful community that it is :)
     
  14. Josh Fitzpatrick

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    Flying in the end I agree with, it just gives a HUGEEE advantage to the people who can fly. It won’t be fair for anyone who cannot fly… pvp I don’t know the reason
     
  15. Finn_The_Hobbit

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    The problem of people without fly who can't gather shulker shells can be fixed by creating a room where you can farm shulkers for a certain amount of time and money. This way, everyone wins with donators still being able to explore the end and non donators being able to farm for shulker shells, and this method incentives them to gather money, albeit though voting or shops, it would still stimulate the economy. Xisumavoid created a tutorial for a farm like this, link down below.

     
  16. PattonSteel

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    The Damon Crate currently has an Efficiency 5 Unbreaking 8 Pickaxe inside instead of an Efficiency 8 Pickaxe.

    Thanks!
     
  17. PreciousMe

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    This has been discussed in the past and denied multiple times. If you allow a farm like this, there are too many factors that could control the cost of shulkers thus making their price drop and ruin the shulker economy. Hence, allow fly in the end: encourages more people to donate and allows shulker prices to fluctuate thus making them cheaper for non-donors but still allow for a decent shulker economy.
     
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  18. Finn_The_Hobbit

    Finn_The_Hobbit Active Member Registered

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    I was just suggesting that video iF they decide to permanently remove fly in the End which I hope they don't.
     
  19. Alice [707]

    Alice [707] Hacking in Progress... Staff Member Forums Overseer Moderator Registered

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    Since a bunch of discussions are going around, I'm going to sum up my points:

    1. KEEP FLY IN END - End is the main factor for exploring. It's Now endless. If it was before 1.9, with just a little island, I'd be all for no flying in end. But you can only get so far in the end before you need 5 stacks of just cobble and such just to make it to the next little island. Soon that little island at the start is going to look ugly + griefed to bits. Also, with not having fly in the end, people who re-spawn the ender dragon just to get the achievement is a nightmare for staff. 9/10 times the render distance is awful and soon it becomes an hour long struggle with the end result asking staff to kill it.

    The economy WITH fly for gear from End, such as elytra, shulker boxes, and dragon heads are reasonable prices (like 3-5k for boxes) and there's no need to make them be more rare.

    2. TRANSFER NO FLY AND PVP ENABLED TO NETHER REGION - The nether region has a LOT of stable ground and is not just a void into the darkness. Yes, it's mostly covered with lava, but less people travel to this region and it's also more "brutal" because you can't put water down to stop yourself from being on fire. And you can cover more ground and use less materials with having no fly...then with the end.

    3. IFFY ABOUT DIAMOND ITEMS IN VOTING CRATES - I'm always iffy about having diamond gear be in voting crates. Diamond gear should not be available for "free" and should only be gotten via the actual crates themselves or through mining diamonds/making them. It just soon decreases the overall worth of diamond armor, especially, if I can get a bunch of sets of them for virtually nothing in the voting crates. I've always considered the voting crates as more of XP getting, food, and basic survival gear.

    4. CHANGE DIAMOND GEAR TO XP OR BOOKS OR EVEN ENCHANTED IRON GEAR - I'm for changing the diamond gear to XP (such as 5 or 10 lvls) or even having enchanted iron gear (Like very basic Unbreak 1) instead of diamond.
     
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  20. PreciousMe

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    Can't we keep fly everywhere? Not only are end items cheap but quartz is cheaper now than EVER before (around $300 per stack). If you remove fly in whichever region, that economy is going to see extreme pricing once more.
     

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